Bug 157684 - Add option to set default Wrap for inserted pictures
Summary: Add option to set default Wrap for inserted pictures
Status: NEEDINFO
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
6.0 all versions
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL: https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/how-can...
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Reported: 2023-10-10 14:49 UTC by liszca
Modified: 2024-05-30 00:18 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Current Default workflow (8.11 MB, video/x-matroska)
2023-10-10 14:52 UTC, liszca
Details
right way (46.06 KB, image/jpeg)
2024-05-29 17:51 UTC, liszca
Details
wrong way (38.10 KB, image/jpeg)
2024-05-29 17:52 UTC, liszca
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wrong way (59.33 KB, image/jpeg)
2024-05-29 17:57 UTC, liszca
Details

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Description liszca 2023-10-10 14:49:08 UTC
Description:
Hi!
I am not happy with the default workflow provided by LibreOffice Writer when creating a new document. In detail its the default formation of pasted Images.

In the video I want to show you how it is and then comment what I think about this default handling.

Please have look at the Video.

what are my complaints:
when beginning a new document I write down in a not so detailed manner.
what disrupts this quick workflow is the default formating of a new image. Isn't it possible to set "Wrap" for the pictures in a different way by default? For Example "None"?

Also its very distracting having this icon bares come up when selecting a picture and then back to text and vice versa. Couldn't this be done in a more static manner, so the Layout of the UI is less affected?

Steps to Reproduce:
please see video

Actual Results:
when working with images the default workflow feels confusing

Expected Results:
Insert an image and write your text above or below it. If you need it different change "Wrap"


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
See video
Comment 1 liszca 2023-10-10 14:52:32 UTC
Created attachment 190116 [details]
Current Default workflow
Comment 2 liszca 2023-10-10 14:54:51 UTC
Also I am wondering why does "Heading 1" change its position in the pulldown menu after being used for the first time. It keeps the user away from haveing a routine while working with it.
Comment 3 m_a_riosv 2023-10-10 23:29:53 UTC
Looks like a duplicate of tdf#49992
Comment 4 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2023-10-24 16:42:11 UTC
(In reply to liszca from comment #2)
> Also I am wondering why does "Heading 1" change its position in the pulldown
> menu after being used for the first time. It keeps the user away from
> haveing a routine while working with it.

This was done on purpose and is tracked in bug 156970.

(In reply to m.a.riosv from comment #3)
> Looks like a duplicate of tdf#49992

Similar, although that one is for anchor and this is for wrap. But I assume if we give the option for one, we should give the option for the other.

Workaround for this Wrap issue is to change the default Graphics style. See answer in: https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/how-can-i-set-the-default-wrap-mode-for-inserting-images-in-text-in-writer/14615

liszca, can you try changing the default Graphics style in the Styles Sidebar > Frames, and set the Wrap to "None"? Is that sufficient for you?
Comment 5 QA Administrators 2024-04-22 03:15:27 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 QA Administrators 2024-05-23 03:17:28 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 7 liszca 2024-05-29 17:41:34 UTC
Hi the video demonstrates how the arrangement of the "Style" pull-down menu before it is used in the active document and after it was used.

In my opinion and for general more uniform usability. The arrangement should ALWAYS stay static.


See two pictures (I still have to add)
Comment 8 liszca 2024-05-29 17:51:06 UTC
Created attachment 194437 [details]
right way

Style Arrangement how it should be please compare with other libreoffice-please-not-like-this.jpg image
Comment 9 liszca 2024-05-29 17:52:23 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 10 liszca 2024-05-29 17:57:16 UTC
Created attachment 194439 [details]
wrong way

Please keep the arrangement the same by default. There could be an option to enable this but it is not active by default, as it confuses people who are new to the software.
Comment 11 liszca 2024-05-29 17:59:33 UTC
Please ignore Attachment #194438 [details] it is incomplete.
Comment 12 liszca 2024-05-29 18:07:30 UTC
Ok thats it about the style menu.

The other thing about inserting images looks like it got a change. I want to play around with it in detail, but having a short look it feels a lot more usable.
Comment 13 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2024-05-30 00:18:32 UTC
(In reply to liszca from comment #12)
> Ok thats it about the style menu.
That Styles dropdown issue is tracked in bug 156970 already. If you want to add to the discussion, please do so there. You can link to your screenshots there if you want.
Let's keep this report about image wrap.

> The other thing about inserting images looks like it got a change. I want to
> play around with it in detail, but having a short look it feels a lot more
> usable.
I'll set back to "needinfo" then. Please test with LO 24.2, see the suggestion about default Graphics style in comment 4, and let us know if you still thinks something is missing.
Thank you!