| Summary: | UI should not allow use of Unordered tab and Outline tab in "Format>Bullets and Numbering" when selected paragraph has "Chapter Numbering" as its assigned List Style | ||
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| Product: | LibreOffice | Reporter: | Regina Henschel <rb.henschel> |
| Component: | Writer | Assignee: | Not Assigned <libreoffice-bugs> |
| Status: | NEW --- | ||
| Severity: | normal | CC: | bas95, ilmari.lauhakangas, jluth, mdwy62, sdc.blanco, thomas.lendo |
| Priority: | medium | ||
| Version: | Inherited From OOo | ||
| Hardware: | All | ||
| OS: | All | ||
| See Also: | https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124608 | ||
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| Crash report or crash signature: | Regression By: | ||
| Bug Depends on: | |||
| Bug Blocks: | 103364, 103369, 103370 | ||
| Attachments: | document to test the description | ||
Its indeed confusing. Tried it and bullet did disappear from the document upon saving. Tried the other option and they all work. I assume inheritance from OOo because LibO 3.3 shows the same behavior. Tested with LibreOffice 3.3.0, OOO330m19 (Build:6), tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4 Not only on Windows. Tested with 5.3.2.2, Build-ID: 1:5.3.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty1, CPU-Threads: 2; BS-Version: Linux 3.13; UI-Render: Standard; VCL: gtk2; Layout-Engine: neu *** Bug 94107 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** ** Please read this message in its entirety before responding ** To make sure we're focusing on the bugs that affect our users today, LibreOffice QA is asking bug reporters and confirmers to retest open, confirmed bugs which have not been touched for over a year. There have been thousands of bug fixes and commits since anyone checked on this bug report. During that time, it's possible that the bug has been fixed, or the details of the problem have changed. We'd really appreciate your help in getting confirmation that the bug is still present. If you have time, please do the following: Test to see if the bug is still present with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ If the bug is present, please leave a comment that includes the information from Help - About LibreOffice. If the bug is NOT present, please set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED-WORKSFORME and leave a comment that includes the information from Help - About LibreOffice. Please DO NOT Update the version field Reply via email (please reply directly on the bug tracker) Set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED - FIXED (this status has a particular meaning that is not appropriate in this case) If you want to do more to help you can test to see if your issue is a REGRESSION. To do so: 1. Download and install oldest version of LibreOffice (usually 3.3 unless your bug pertains to a feature added after 3.3) from http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ 2. Test your bug 3. Leave a comment with your results. 4a. If the bug was present with 3.3 - set version to 'inherited from OOo'; 4b. If the bug was not present in 3.3 - add 'regression' to keyword Feel free to come ask questions or to say hello in our QA chat: https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone! Warm Regards, QA Team MassPing-UntouchedBug The bug exists as described still in Version: 6.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) Build ID: 7f43f0b50135e147fb2bb1f942da3bf60153fd2c CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: GL; TinderBox: Win-x86_64@42, Branch:master, Time: 2018-09-06_01:41:39 Locale: de-DE (en_US); Calc: CL Dear Regina Henschel, To make sure we're focusing on the bugs that affect our users today, LibreOffice QA is asking bug reporters and confirmers to retest open, confirmed bugs which have not been touched for over a year. There have been thousands of bug fixes and commits since anyone checked on this bug report. During that time, it's possible that the bug has been fixed, or the details of the problem have changed. We'd really appreciate your help in getting confirmation that the bug is still present. If you have time, please do the following: Test to see if the bug is still present with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ If the bug is present, please leave a comment that includes the information from Help - About LibreOffice. If the bug is NOT present, please set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED-WORKSFORME and leave a comment that includes the information from Help - About LibreOffice. Please DO NOT Update the version field Reply via email (please reply directly on the bug tracker) Set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED - FIXED (this status has a particular meaning that is not appropriate in this case) If you want to do more to help you can test to see if your issue is a REGRESSION. To do so: 1. Download and install oldest version of LibreOffice (usually 3.3 unless your bug pertains to a feature added after 3.3) from http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ 2. Test your bug 3. Leave a comment with your results. 4a. If the bug was present with 3.3 - set version to 'inherited from OOo'; 4b. If the bug was not present in 3.3 - add 'regression' to keyword Feel free to come ask questions or to say hello in our QA chat: https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone! Warm Regards, QA Team MassPing-UntouchedBug The error still exists in Version: 6.4.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) Build ID: fd67c89e52441387dffab1c788007271e717571b CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: default; VCL: win; TinderBox: Win-x86_64@42, Branch:master, Time: 2019-09-03_06:15:20 Locale: de-DE (en_US); UI-Language: en-US Calc: threaded (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #0) > Save the document. Close it. Reopen it. The headings have no numbering at all. Can repro with 7.2.0.0.alpha+ Also relevant to note: 1. All the outlines in Outline tab, except one, include bullets. 2. If Bullets are applied from the Bullets (Unordered) tab in Format - Bullets and Numbering, then the same problem occurs. In sum: Central issue is that applying bullets to paragraphs that have Chapter Numbering as List Style, using Format - Bullets and Numbering will result in the bullets being lost. Documentation advises against using Format>Bullets and Numbering with Chapter Numbering. Maybe documentation could be improved (a little). See tip (with light bulb) in: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/swriter/01/06060000.html https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/swriter/01/05030800.html (has a note that says to use Tools-Chapter Numbering with headings). Any suggestions? In relation to the problem you describe: To achieve what you want, it would be necessary to know when a paragraph style is listed in Tools > Chapter Numbering (cannot rely on using "Heading N" only, because it is possible to change PS in the Chapter Numbering dialog), and given that the problem is with bullets in general (plus the advice in the documentation), perhaps best to disable both the Unordered (Bullets) and Outline tabs. Have modified the bug summary to reflect that idea. Please modify again if I have misinterpreted. (In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #9) > Maybe documentation could be improved (a little). Have tried to emphasize/highlight further in the help pages with: 1. Elaborated tip in "Tools - Chapter Numbering" https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/swriter/01/06060000.html and embedded it into https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/swriter/guide/numbering_paras.html (to replace similar tip) https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/367a4f5cf3d78adaeec36715a37286a6a2cea694 2. Added note to guide page about manual numbering to use "tools-chapter numbering" for numbered headings. https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/swriter/guide/using_numbering.html https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/6f068cc382d085ade3ef7177cc06859fcce1cf2c Also corrected bug summary here ( "Ordered" -> "Unordered" )from my previous attempt to rewrite. Dear Regina Henschel, To make sure we're focusing on the bugs that affect our users today, LibreOffice QA is asking bug reporters and confirmers to retest open, confirmed bugs which have not been touched for over a year. There have been thousands of bug fixes and commits since anyone checked on this bug report. During that time, it's possible that the bug has been fixed, or the details of the problem have changed. We'd really appreciate your help in getting confirmation that the bug is still present. If you have time, please do the following: Test to see if the bug is still present with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ If the bug is present, please leave a comment that includes the information from Help - About LibreOffice. If the bug is NOT present, please set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED-WORKSFORME and leave a comment that includes the information from Help - About LibreOffice. Please DO NOT Update the version field Reply via email (please reply directly on the bug tracker) Set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED - FIXED (this status has a particular meaning that is not appropriate in this case) If you want to do more to help you can test to see if your issue is a REGRESSION. To do so: 1. Download and install oldest version of LibreOffice (usually 3.3 unless your bug pertains to a feature added after 3.3) from https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ 2. Test your bug 3. Leave a comment with your results. 4a. If the bug was present with 3.3 - set version to 'inherited from OOo'; 4b. If the bug was not present in 3.3 - add 'regression' to keyword Feel free to come ask questions or to say hello in our QA chat: https://web.libera.chat/?settings=#libreoffice-qa Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone! Warm Regards, QA Team MassPing-UntouchedBug The problem still exists in Version: 24.2.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: b3fdd999f87312447d03915585812b3a5cd48141 CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19045; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: de-DE (en_US); UI: en-US Calc: CL threaded |
Created attachment 132359 [details] document to test the description Open attached document. Set cursor in a heading. Call "Bullets and Numbering" dialog from context menu or Format menu. Goto tab "Outline", select the bottom right set, that which has bullets, click OK. Notice that the headings show this bullets. Goto Tools > Outline numbering. Notice that the bullets are shown in the preview. Save the document. Close it. Reopen it. The headings have no numbering at all. It is a bad user experience, that the user gets no hint, that bullets on outline numbering are not possible, and he will notice the problem first, when he reopens the document and sees, that the bullets are lost. The bullets are lost, because a outline list cannot have bullets in file format. The UI should not allow a setting, which is not possible to be saved.